Tea Party Patriots Dispute Claims that Sarah Palin is the Tea Party Leader
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in Bossier City Louisiana Monday, February 08, 2010 1:21:43 AM
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The press would love to have us all believe that Sarah Palin is at the front of the Tea Party movement.
After her speech and weekend appearances, Sarah Palin would like to have us all believe that she is the leader of the Tea Party movement.
According to Geraldo, Sarah Palin is the leader of the Tea Party movement.
According to the conservative pundits on Fox News, such as Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin is the leader of the Tea Party movement.
The empty hairdos on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC and Sesame Street all claim that Sarah Palin is the leader of the Tea Party movement.
They all forgot to do one thing, actually asking someone who has been involved in the Tea Party movement. How hard could that actually be? How difficult could it be to find a real Tea Party member?
To assume that the people who paid $1500.00 - $2000.00 to attend the JPN Judson Phillips Nation conference in Nashville, Tennessee this weekend are grass root Tea Partiers is to ignore the truth. You cannot buy your way into this club. Just because you could foot a ticket to see Sarah Palin, does not mean that you are a Tea Party Patriot. I predict that you will begin to see anti Palin signs in the Tea Party crowds, even from individuals who would like to see her as president. I for one would be among those numbers
Real grass root Patriots have been working on the ground for a year now and don't need a 'leaders' conference to sit around and be told what to do to save the country. They are already doing what needs to be done. In fact, they've already had thousands of free conferences around the country, beginning on Feb 27th. 2009 and as recently as the Saturday of Palin’s speech where over 5000 people showed up in Florida.
As a side note, the real grassroots are like me and almost every other Patriot that I personally know. Their bank accounts are overdrawn, their families are stressed, their hobbies no longer exist, they watch, listen and read every bit of information that can be found as if their life depended on it, and most importantly a fire is raging inside of them. But now I am afraid that what just happened in Nashville may just spell the end of something that promised to be great; the Tea Party movement.
Because of their willingness to jump in with both feet from the very beginning in early 2009 and because of the sacrifice they have already made, each true American Tea Party Patriot can say they understand in an acute manner what it truly means to pledge their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor and now it seems like it was all for naught.
There are nearly 1500 Tea Party groups registered here on Tea Party Patriots representing over 15 million members. Take a minute and scroll to the bottom of the Tea Party Patriots, http://www.teapartypatriots.org home page. Call any of the local leaders or organizers listed below; you will find few Tea Party Patriots who believe that Sarah Palin is the leader of the Tea Party movement or that they are an arm of the Republican Party or care about the career aspirations any candidate. Check out our google group, where this issue has been discussed ad nausium for a whole year. Read any of the hundreds of thousands of handmade signs that have been held at the thousands of rallies around the country. Peruse the Tea Party Patriots facebook fan page with over 70,000 fans. Or simply go knock on about 4 doors in your own neighborhood, you will probably find one of the 15 million Tea Party Patriots members in one of them. You will be hard pressed to find a single patriot who conceds that Sarah Palin or anyone else is the leader of the Tea Party, or that the Tea Party movement is an arm of the Republican Party.
This movement has nothing to do with any political party; Patriots don't care about party. Patriots transcend all political parties with simple ideas. What you will find in the Tea Party movement is republicans, democrats and independents arm in arm, pulling on the same rope on the same team who simply want to do three basic common sense things.
First, they want to eliminate the bloating and corruption in government and vaporize the extravagant spending. Second, they want to return common sense to the free enterprise model that created the greatest economic times in the history of man. Third, they want to put into a place real checks and balances that return the government to the people.
For all of the time, sacrifice and hard work that have been expended by Patriots across the country, surely they are qualified to determine wholly on their own whom their leader is going to be, whether they need a leader at all and what their direction is going to be. The Tea Party has done just fine without a leader, this fledgling group without a leader has moved to the front of the headlines and become a household word. It has polled higher than either major US party, changed the course of debate in DC where a single political party has attempted tyranny over a people that would make most world dictators blush. Most Tea Party Patriots will tell you that the constitution starts with "We The People...” most will remind you that George Washington refused to be a king, and had to be dragged kicking and screaming to be the countries first leader.
So to hear claims that there is a leader is dangerous to the political career for persons claiming to be that leader.
Just as Barack Obama was plowed into the white house by a press disconnected from the American people, Sarah Palin is being plowed to the front of the Tea Party movement by forces with resources who believe they can tell Tea Party Patriots who their leaders are.
Tea Party groups around this country have said again and again that they have a leaderless organization; that they are not going to be forced into a position that they do not endorse. Unfortunately the JPN Judson Phillips Nation and Sarah Palin's speech may have just pushed the Tea Party movement over a cliff.
For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction. The Tea Party movement is the response to the progressive spending spree that the federal government has been shoving down our throats for the last 60 years. The question is this... can it counter this overcome the unlikely and idiotic encroachment from someone who should be an ally?
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speakingsoftly
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Friday, February 19, 2010 7:10:53 PM
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duh, If you are so ready to disown her, why did you ask her to speak anyway. At least we both agree that she is a total ditz. Why isn't she blonde?
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summit02
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Friday, February 19, 2010 1:53:19 AM
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We can't trust either party to help the american people we must take action and fight. Yes we will be gunned down in the streets like in iran but we will win in the end. god bless joe stack
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resumecoach
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Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:53:53 AM
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uh,
you people need to wake up--a big contributor on this site of your's--"SweetPea"--is all for Sarah-no brain-Palin. Sweet Pea also claims Ron Paul was not the founder of the orinial movement. In fact, he was, back in 2007--dumped tea into the harbor. Paul's movement was hijacked. It's the unedcuated, ill-informed comments of sweet pea, as well as Diane Capps at a recent tea party rally in WA--where she advocates Sen. Murray being hanged--is what will hurt this movement--when you start advocating violence after you rile the nation up with bird brains like Beck and Fox--then violence is the next stage--what Capp said--that is Nazi Germany before the war. Also makes teabeaggers look hypocritical--preaching family values, but advocating violence. Tebaggers are looking more and more like right-wing, neoconservative religious zealots who are racist. Don't think so--look at this other fine peice of work from Diane Capps:
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:_hpGNWe5p_8J:teapartypatriots.ning.com/profile/diannecapps+Dianne+Capps&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
which is:
At 10:19pm on October 3, 2009, dianne capps said… I moved to Nacogdoches Tx from Clarkston Wa, and growing up here I knew very few blacks, but those I knew were educated and not racist to whites. I worked in the High school at Nacogoches I was very nieve to Southern Black Tradition. We are not recieved the same by all black people, as they are taught from birth that we think less of them. I was actually threatened one day in the school because I asked some Black Teen- agers to quiet down while a performance was going on by a white singer. It is not white people that carrry the banner. It is a certian group of Blacks who want to keep Black and whites in this culter banter. I have been on both sides and have some very wonderful black friends. It is those who want to find a place in Black Hate gangs that find the most unhappy lives.
WE have seen some of that coming out of Black Preachers, have we not, in Rev Wright?
DeeDee
Proof is in the pudding--and she can have federal charges brought aginst her for threatening a federal official--maximum penalty 6-10 plus fine. Your Welcome.
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resumecoach
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Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:48:21 AM
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uh,
you people need to wake up--a big contributor on this site of your's--"SweetPea"--is all for Sarah-no brain-Palin. Sweet Pea also claims Ron Paul was not the founder of the orinial movement. In fact, he was, back in 2007--dumped tea into the harbor. Paul's movement was hijacked. It's the unedcuated, ill-informed comments of sweet pea, as well as Diane Capps at a recent tea party rally in WA--where she advocates Sen. Murray being hanged--is what will hurt this movement--when you start advocating violence after you rile the nation up with bird brains like Beck and Fox--then violence is the next stage--what Capp said--that is Nazi Germany before the war. Also makes teabeaggers look hypocritical--preaching family values, but advocating violence. Tebaggers are looking more and more like right-wing, neoconservative religious zealots who are racist. Don't think so--look at this other fine peice of work from Diane Capps:
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:_hpGNWe5p_8J:teapartypatriots.ning.com/profile/diannecapps+Dianne+Capps&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
which is:
At 10:19pm on October 3, 2009, dianne capps said… I moved to Nacogdoches Tx from Clarkston Wa, and growing up here I knew very few blacks, but those I knew were educated and not racist to whites. I worked in the High school at Nacogoches I was very nieve to Southern Black Tradition. We are not recieved the same by all black people, as they are taught from birth that we think less of them. I was actually threatened one day in the school because I asked some Black Teen- agers to quiet down while a performance was going on by a white singer. It is not white people that carrry the banner. It is a certian group of Blacks who want to keep Black and whites in this culter banter. I have been on both sides and have some very wonderful black friends. It is those who want to find a place in Black Hate gangs that find the most unhappy lives.
WE have seen some of that coming out of Black Preachers, have we not, in Rev Wright?
DeeDee
Proof is in the pudding--and she can have federal charges brought aginst her for threatening a federal official--maximum penalty 6-10 plus fine. Your Welcome.
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02blackjack
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:41:06 AM
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Palin is a 'Patriot' before she is a repub. And she's gone rogue. Watch her actions in the future. She is truly the only person in a position to actually utilize the repub party (eventually) for Patriot purpose.
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davycrockett
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Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:38:00 AM
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It appears some of you have fallen for the MSM's take on Sarah Palin. Why would you care what some of these media types have to say about her? She clearly doesn't want the title of leader of the movement. She wants to see this movement grow and mature into a powerful force in American politics. Don't let something as trivial as this hinder what we are trying to acomplish. That's what the MSM wants.
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WTPCT
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Friday, February 12, 2010 12:00:13 AM
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"State Controlled Media" is more accurate. Vic you must have forgotten the ABC/White House Informercial with a controlled audience and NO opposing views allowed. Even Helen Thomas took Gibbs to task over the top down control of the media by this admnistration. She stated in all her years she has never seen anything like this! How about the "planted" questioners ? (more than one was caught) "don't treat them like a regular news organization'--sounds controlling to me. I could go on and on with more examples if needed. And yes Sen Kerry has already proposed that our tax dollars go to fund print media and if you think they would be the one and only organization to receive gov't money with no strings attatched well what else can I say.
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vicmedford
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Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:56:18 PM
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"State run media" Does anyone know the facts on this? Im researching to find what stations are government run. They all seem to be owned by corporations, most by conglomerates.
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hmarty
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Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:37:55 PM
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I am politically homeless. I bow to no Party and no person. I am loyal to a free Nation. When will the media get it. Don't be discouraged fellow Patriots, stand shoulder to shoulder, do not sell your soul to the politicians, this is our Country and we are taking it back, on vote at a time. Maybe we even need to start smoking out the lobbyists! Keep the faith brothers and sisters, keep up the fight, we must not grow weary and complacent! Those days are gone forever!
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hmarty
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Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:37:46 PM
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I am politically homeless. I bow to no Party and no person. I am loyal to a free Nation. When will the media get it. Don't be discouraged fellow Patriots, stand shoulder to shoulder, do not sell your soul to the politicians, this is our Country and we are taking it back, on vote at a time. Maybe we even need to start smoking out the lobbyists! Keep the faith brothers and sisters, keep up the fight, we must not grow weary and complacent! Those days are gone forever!
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CarrieK
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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:04:09 AM
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Why are y'all making such a big deal - SHE has never said that she is the leader of the Tea Party movement - Sarah Palin has only encouraged and championed it - in every interview I have seen. I think y'all are doing the right thing - getting the word out about the grassroots effort the Tea Party is. Embrace those who are encouraging and fighting for our rights to do and be what we are. Put the press releases out - call those state run media outlets and let them know... part of what you are reacting to, is their desire for the Tea Party Movement to go away and "have problems" to prove it is not legitimate...let's continue to hang and fight as the grassroots power we are in this country!
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teapartyforever
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Tuesday, February 09, 2010 3:21:23 PM
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someone asked "How do we decide on who is a TPP?"
the answer is 'we' don't decide. anyone should be free to join or leave the movement at any time. we have certain agreed upon value that are simple and easy to understand. those who wish to join us will, those who do not, will not. it isn't up to 'us', it's up to the individual. that's what makes our movement so strong.
we shouldn't have a 'leader'. we shouldn't have an organisation. leaders and organisations become corrupt. movements are very difficult to corrupt. those who share our values are welcome and they can identify with the tea party movement if they want to. those who don't identify with the movement obviously won't be joining it.
after all, we can organise gatherings without becoming an organisation. we have more power if we remain a movement. let's rate the candidates and vote out all the socialists. we can rate them on our numerous websites. we have to agree on a few basic principles because we are so diverse. will will not always agree. we have to tolerate some differences to get what we all agree on, namely small government, fiscal responsibility, freedom, personal and property rights. we just need to find the best path as how to get there.
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02blackjack
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Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:27:13 AM
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The repub party did not work for the last 157 years to get control and have things just like they want them just to 'play nice' because a new movement is born. They understand being committed...mostly to money and their agenda to keep it. They're not about to pack up and go home. Until we start making a display of VOTING OUT CAREER POLITICIAN REPUBS they will simply use us and then laugh at us.
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02blackjack
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Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:17:06 AM
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Arizona Patriots: Fire John McCain-repub-24 years in the senate. CAREER POLITICIAN! His time to go is long past. Term limit him from the grassroots. Show the repub party that they can NOT use us and that we don't dance to Palin's fiddle.
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WalterScottHudson
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Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:39:46 AM
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Fears that the "Tea Party is dead" or somehow endangered by transparent attempts to co-opt or misrepresent it are hyperbolic. The movement will not be pinned down, co-opted, sold out, or destroyed. It is truly organic, truly grassroots, and impossible to kill without muting the fire in the bellies of 15 million patriots.
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jrandall
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Monday, February 08, 2010 9:30:45 PM
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The Republican party is trying to use us to keep their seats. The incumbents are professional politicians, and they know how to play the game. They have big money behind them and the best political consultants money can buy. Palin was encouraged by the GOP to speak to the tea party because they see her as someone who can get us to go along with her... and you see who she is endorsing ... incumbents. She is campaigning for Perry in Texas, and he has done a horrible job there. Medina, the tea party candidate is polled to beat the Dem in the race, but Palin still refuses to put her support behind her. She wants us to follow her lead, so she is playing nice. I don't trust her at all. She is playing partisan politics and scamming us to do the same. We were convinced to give Scott Brown our support to beat a dem - and what we got is a man who just accepted $400,000 from Wall Street - so how do you think he is going to vote - he will vote to keep the bailout money in place for the next time they fail - which they will, because none of the rules have been changed and they are playing the same game they were playing before. Scott Brown and the rest of the incumbents are now getting the big bucks from Wall Street because Wall Street is mad at the Dems. Good news, we get rid of the dems - bad news - we keep the crooks on the right. These are the same people who were in office and supported Bush's spending. These are the same people who can't balance the budget without a special commission because they aren't honest enough to cut spending on their own. They are irresponsible. If this tea party is to have any impact whatsoever on the future of America, we had better start voting out these incumbents regardless of the letter by their name, or we might be as disappointed as the dems are in Obama after November. That would be a real waste of hard work and a defeating blow to the movement. Start following the money. Look at how they vote on issues. I agree with what the lady from the tea party convention spoke about - the only part of it I actually liked - from the Abigail Adams project. She said, take the R and the D off their names and look at the record, look at the person, look at their values. If we don't start heeding her advice, we will be supporting another batch of crooks and liars. I'm not going to do that anymore.
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jrandall
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Monday, February 08, 2010 9:30:45 PM
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The Republican party is trying to use us to keep their seats. The incumbents are professional politicians, and they know how to play the game. They have big money behind them and the best political consultants money can buy. Palin was encouraged by the GOP to speak to the tea party because they see her as someone who can get us to go along with her... and you see who she is endorsing ... incumbents. She is campaigning for Perry in Texas, and he has done a horrible job there. Medina, the tea party candidate is polled to beat the Dem in the race, but Palin still refuses to put her support behind her. She wants us to follow her lead, so she is playing nice. I don't trust her at all. She is playing partisan politics and scamming us to do the same. We were convinced to give Scott Brown our support to beat a dem - and what we got is a man who just accepted $400,000 from Wall Street - so how do you think he is going to vote - he will vote to keep the bailout money in place for the next time they fail - which they will, because none of the rules have been changed and they are playing the same game they were playing before. Scott Brown and the rest of the incumbents are now getting the big bucks from Wall Street because Wall Street is mad at the Dems. Good news, we get rid of the dems - bad news - we keep the crooks on the right. These are the same people who were in office and supported Bush's spending. These are the same people who can't balance the budget without a special commission because they aren't honest enough to cut spending on their own. They are irresponsible. If this tea party is to have any impact whatsoever on the future of America, we had better start voting out these incumbents regardless of the letter by their name, or we might be as disappointed as the dems are in Obama after November. That would be a real waste of hard work and a defeating blow to the movement. Start following the money. Look at how they vote on issues. I agree with what the lady from the tea party convention spoke about - the only part of it I actually liked - from the Abigail Adams project. She said, take the R and the D off their names and look at the record, look at the person, look at their values. If we don't start heeding her advice, we will be supporting another batch of crooks and liars. I'm not going to do that anymore.
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02blackjack
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Monday, February 08, 2010 8:22:25 PM
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Is this bickering or robust political discussion as we define and refine ourselves? I don't fear differing fews or political discussion. It helps me determine my own positions.
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johnm1w
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Monday, February 08, 2010 7:59:30 PM
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Please get real. Even the original patriots had leaders.... Jefferson, Washington, Madison, Pain and others. Worry over being pinned as part of a traditional party must not get in the way of achieving our objectives. We must overtake one of the existing traditional parties. And I don't think it will be the Democrats. Start working to make which of the two will be our party and go for it. Folks that started the movement may have to give over power to a greater cause. And get off Palin's back. She is NOT trying to take over but can be of great help in restoring the country to its Constitutional principals. So stop bickering PLEASE, or else end up in Obama chains.
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02blackjack
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Monday, February 08, 2010 7:16:55 PM
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Must deal with all realities in a calm manner without fear. If our ideals, motives, and commitment are strong enough then we will eventually reach our goals. There are truly many serious forces arrayed against us.
I agree with the comment below that most, if not all, social issues should be left to strong state governments. These issues are so divisive and we are so diverse, that they will never be resolved to everyone's satisfaction. The best we can hope for with these issues is probably going to be some compromise that will, at least, keep people from killing one another.
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rhymn001
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Monday, February 08, 2010 6:11:15 PM
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I agree with most of this article, however it does get slightly sidetracked when quoting Sarah Palin's speech. She very clearly stated that she was not the head of the Tea Party movement, that it is INDEPENDENT. There are many people out there who want to make a change in how the politicians run our government, and many people who would like to diminish the potential strength of the movement. Maintaining our INDEPENDENCE is the most important chore that this growing but fledgling movement can do. Our strength is not for sale to the highest bidder, not to the latest celebrity/politician. Our strength is in the simple fact that we have come together to force a change in the way current and previous politicians have run our country into the ground. We need to concentrate on what binds us together rather than what divides us.
We must demand that our government stop spending what it does not have, or is not entitled to under the laws of the US Constitution. We must demand, through the ballot, that our leaders act responsibly and ethically in the conduct of our nations business. We must demand that our dependence on foreign goods, oil and material be diminished in the next 5 years. We must look to ourselves and our responsibility for electing the right kind of people to represent our interests in Washington.
With the potential power of 50 million votes, senior citizens (those over 62 years old) must band together and vote as a block. We are the most potent voting block that this country has ever seen, IF we are organized and cohesive in our objectives and methods. Civil and serious communication is imperative if we are to realize the goals that we seek.
There will be, and are now, efforts and forces arrayed against this populist movement. The two major political parties in this country are afraid of the potential power that our movement has. They will do anything to diminish and destroy it. We must keep our goals simple and not get mired in minutia or pettiness or divisive communication. The media will attempt to deny us or destroy us, but we can become the force that political hacks and media types will respect if we are cohesive in our agenda.
Wisdom and great thought must go into our goals. Cooperation among all of the Tea Party movements (or any other name by which like minded citizens congregate)is the only way we will be effective and bring this country back to sanity.
Maintaining our independence is paramount to this movement surviving and becoming the positive force that it can be.
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rhymn001
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Monday, February 08, 2010 6:06:59 PM
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I agree with most of this article, however it does get slightly sidetracked when quoting Sarah Palin's speech. She very clearly stated that she was not the head of the Tea Party movement, that it is INDEPENDENT. There are many people out there who want to make a change in how the politicians run our government, and many people who would like to diminish the potential strength of the movement. Maintaining our INDEPENDENCE is the most important chore that this growing but fledgling movement can do. Our strength is not for sale to the highest bidder, not to the latest celebrity/politician. Our strength is in the simple fact that we have come together to force a change in the way current and previous politicians have run our country into the ground. We need to concentrate on what binds us together rather than what divides us.
We must demand that our government stop spending what it does not have, or is not entitled to under the laws of the US Constitution. We must demand, through the ballot, that our leaders act responsibly and ethically in the conduct of our nations business. We must demand that our dependence on foreign goods, oil and material be diminished in the next 5 years. We must look to ourselves and our responsibility for electing the right kind of people to represent our interests in Washington.
With the potential power of 50 million votes, senior citizens (those over 62 years old) must band together and vote as a block. We are the most potent voting block that this country has ever seen, IF we are organized and cohesive in our objectives and methods. Civil and serious communication is imperative if we are to realize the goals that we seek.
There will be, and are now, efforts and forces arrayed against this populist movement. The two major political parties in this country are afraid of the potential power that our movement has. They will do anything to diminish and destroy it. We must keep our goals simple and not get mired in minutia or pettiness or divisive communication. The media will attempt to deny us or destroy us, but we can become the force that political hacks and media types will respect if we are cohesive in our agenda.
Wisdom and great thought must go into our goals. Cooperation among all of the Tea Party movements (or any other name by which like minded citizens congregate)is the only way we will be effective and bring this country back to sanity.
Maintaining our independence is paramount to this movement surviving and becoming the positive force that it can be.
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bvdornisch
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Monday, February 08, 2010 6:05:19 PM
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I refuse to let the talking heads, and pundits of all pursuasions affect my commitment to restoring the Constitutional Republic for our posterity. There is a desperate attempt being made within the "progressive" camp to fragment our movement and buy their way in. Where they will attempt to destroy the first genuine resistance to their Marxist takeover in a generation.
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WorkingMan
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Monday, February 08, 2010 4:31:34 PM
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The entire Tea Party movement being considered "grassroots" is a JOKE! Palin got $100,000 for speaking. Americans For Prosperity fund the Tea Party movement and all you need to do is Google their name to see where they stand. I'd LOVE to see a REAL grassroots movement not funded by any Party, but, looking out for the best interests of WE THE PEOPLE. Americans For Prosperity sure doesn't fit the bill.
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S2R4M
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Monday, February 08, 2010 2:34:19 PM
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To those comments highlighting what Palin said, "She said..." She's a politician. She's going to say what she thinks we want to hear. The whole point (as I understand it) is that (1) she thinks she has any right at all to speak for us as a whole, (2) accepted money to speak on behalf of a group she isn't affiliated with, and (3) is driving a wedge to divide all of us. Someone else said it best; that we are extremely diverse but believe in a few basic ideas. Palin's presence has caused more people to notice (or pay more attention to) the Tea Party movement. However, what was represented at that conference and what the grass-roots effort began are two very different groups of people. If we allow this kind of "infiltration," the movement will fail to reach the goal we all started out with and end up becoming "Republicans-lite." IF Palin really means what she said, she'll stay out of our way.
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captain0309
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Monday, February 08, 2010 2:22:39 PM
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Look, don't fall for the hype that Sarah Palin is the leader of the Tea Party movement.
First, we need to establish a true platform that represents a majority of our members. Only then will we be able to establish who our leader is. The leader of our party will be the person who can best articulate the major planks in our platform and who can raise the money to support our candidates in elections.
Sarah Palin may be that leader but she has to prove to our members that she supports our platform and can articulate our arguments for our candidates and can raise money for our candidates to win elections. Until she demonstrates those abilities to our party, she should not be ordained our leader by the mainstream media and cable news talking heads.
On the other hand, she does have a Conservative ideology and not only talks the talk, but walks the walk of a Conservative. She draws crowds and raises money easily. Let's not discount her as a potential leader of our movement.
One more thought, the people who have mindlessly annointed her the leader of our Party are the ones who annointed Mr. Hope and Change two years ago. How is that for a track record?
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mmyre
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Monday, February 08, 2010 1:52:21 PM
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Why dont the folks in political office, get it? As an american I think all the incumbints must go. they dont listen to whats realy important to the american people.
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PaulRevere
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Monday, February 08, 2010 8:59:03 AM
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I put this up last night listening to Geraldo, Huckabee and Juan Williams spent 10 minutes discussing her speech and touting the fact that she is the leader of the Tea Party and that we are now clearly an arm of the republican party pulling IT back to the right, and they stated emphatically, and I quote.. "Sarah Palin is the clearly the leader of the Tea Party movement.".
The press has reported the TPN event as if it reflected the true nature of the Tea Party movement. Does no one feel the need to clarify the truth here?
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Ridger
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Monday, February 08, 2010 8:08:50 AM
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I have not trusted the national news media for some time and I believe they are the reason we have a two party system.It is about control. And both sides feed it. Education, Information (all these scondrals had public record of their disdain for Our UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION),Communication. Watch your Local Elections; Tyrany starts at local levels. Voter Fraud is rampit (it's not just ACORN; watch those Counties).Leader; lets let Our U.S. Constitution guide us not the a LAME STREAM, we say so media. And I give a heart felt thanks to Dave Duffy and John Silveira.
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Brian Bertha
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Monday, February 08, 2010 7:49:58 AM
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This article in my view is counter productive. Taking the position that TPP does not endorse TPN is fine. I listen to the whole thing and this article does not reflect what Sarah Palin said. Some people in this movement need to get over themselves. You don't like a particular group or person spend your energy building your own instead of criticizing others especially when you characterization is not based on facts.
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tfgavaza
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Monday, February 08, 2010 7:36:33 AM
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what were you hearing! sarah said the tea party does not need a leader.she said it is not a political party and she supports your ideas.she is a positive voice for you and if you start carrying signs protesting her,you might as well kiss the movement good bye.she led me to to you and i'm sure many, many others. i question YOUR motive!
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rpbuice
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Monday, February 08, 2010 7:09:32 AM
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Did I miss something? I thought I heard Sara Palin say the Tea Party doesn't need a leader, queen, king, etc. she also said the Tea Party is a ground up movement. What's the problem here?
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Brian1776
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Monday, February 08, 2010 7:03:10 AM
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Granted that the Nashville Meeting has no right to speak in our name. BUT, we must come to an agreement on HOW we will decide on how to decide on a candidate(s). Before we can throw our support to anyone for any office, we must have a mechanism to : make Tea Party Patriots more explicit than mailing lists and chats. "WHO the fu*k are we?" How do we decide on who is a TPP? How do we decide on how to decide? If we are to succeed and not be hijacked, we must organize ourselves into an actual party.
Let us have county level organizations, close enough to the people so that true members are known and identifiable. Let the local level decide on who it will support in local elections (town selectmen, state reps, US House of Representatives), and who to send to State Conventions. Let State Conventions (consisting only of members of Local Tea parties) endorse state-wide candidates (Governor, US Senate) and who to send to The national Convention to decide on endorsing a Presidential Candidate.
It seems distasteful I know, but we must operate as an actual party. That means we must limit the right to vote in our conventions to actual members. Therefore we must develop the means to register officially as a TPP. Otherwise, we will remain only a movement, devoid of structure, and will be unable to define ourselves. If we do not define ourselves clearly and loudly we are inviting others to do so!
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Edille
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Monday, February 08, 2010 5:55:32 AM
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It’s good that there is a spot light on the “Tea Party”, I reject the notion that Sara Palin is the leader of the movement, what the talking heads fail to remember is that the Tea Party movement is extremely diverse and we have different ideas. Our common ideas are limited Government, Fiscal Conservatism, and adherence to our beloved Constitution, individual Freedom and responsible taxation.
If the movement shifts to social issues such as abortion, anti-medical marijuana, etc we will fall apart. If these are your core values the Republican Party in its traditional form is for you.
Please do not misunderstand me these issues are important but issues like this should be handled on a state by state basis that is why our founders wanted strong states rights. If you don’t like how one state treats these issues then you are free to move to a state more aligned to your beliefs. That is what the founders wanted.
The Tea Party must stick to the core values our collation will fall apart.
This is just one man’s opinion, God Bless America
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doctorg1
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Monday, February 08, 2010 5:50:33 AM
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This is a good example http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6732659166933078950# We need to get into our local schools and teach this stuff. Get the progressive out they have infected us and now our children.
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dackerm1
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Monday, February 08, 2010 4:42:52 AM
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Maybe I am the only one; however I am one to think that the tea party has the opportunity to give the current political party system and our country a fresh start. Why limit the potential of this movement to the mediocre and establishment driven candidates you think are available. Do not limit your options to who is "popular" now, because you would be hard pressed not to find bright individuals within this very movement that would prove better than anyone you think is available at the time being. Tea party representatives in congress need to be ambassadors to the principals of the party that put them there. I do mean the party needs to put them there, not a chairman, or select representatives but the party. Other members of congress need not know them by their name but by their affiliation to the Tea Party knowing that they will be unwavering in their dedication to its principals and members. Sarah Palin and others in the Republican Party like her fear the potential of movement as a third party as much as the democrats fear our votes. I agree with the author, no leader is needed. It would be an understatement to say that this country needs a third party, and would be a missed opportunity at creating a successful one.
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CharlieThePatriot
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Monday, February 08, 2010 4:01:57 AM
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At some point someone has to get behind the wheel and drive the bus if it ever plans on getting somewhere. No one person represents the Patriot movement, but at some point if we patriots want to put a member into office where they CAN represent our concerns, then someone ( our candidate) will be viewed as the leader. Which ever candidate that is chosen that best represents the movement's beliefs. You can slam Palin all day long, but in my opinion, she stands for more of the movements beliefs than any other electable person out there. She was spouting out Tea Party views before there even was a tea party. So when the time comes for someone to step up and represent the party in an ACTUAL election, then my vote is for Sarah Palin. Unless someone else can be found that has her drive, popularity and belief in the values behind this movement.
Just one Patriots opinion.
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PhoenixOrion
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Monday, February 08, 2010 2:38:13 AM
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You've just summed up my thoughts almost exactly, PaulRevere.
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UncleRalph
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Monday, February 08, 2010 2:31:45 AM
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Who said, "...put your faith in ideas.
"And in that spirit, I caution against allowing this movement by be defined by any one leader or politician. The Tea Party movement is not a top-down operation. It’s a ground-up call to action that is forcing both parties to change the way they are doing business, and that’s beautiful. This is about the people! This is about the people, and it’s bigger than any king or queen of a Tea Party..."?
See for yourself: http://bit.ly/devNQ6
Is is wise to be wary? Of course. But I, for one, see no need to get carried away. Not yet.
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rrockey
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Monday, February 08, 2010 2:03:38 AM
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Who rqsted sara speak on our behalf??? was that a local tea party?? did members who donated to their locate tea party make contributions to pay for her appearance with out knowing it?? Did members of the mass. tea party donate funds to help get brown elected?? - I just heard he doesnt stand for pro-life.. I thought most tea party members were conservatives who believe in pro-life? I agree with the 5 key principles of the tea party, however is the abortion issue not as important? are we members of the tea party just trying to focus on the five principles, so we are not taking on too much at once?? ... please someone feel free to shed some light on this for me?? Im concerned if members of the mass. tea party donated money to their local party which in turn went to a representative who doesnt reflect their values. Maybe im off base.. did brown receive donations from his local tea party?? - if so, how does a tea party member have a say in where their donations go??? im my opionion, the tea party SHOULD NOT BE STANDING BEHIND ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REFLECT OUR VALUES!!! at such a critical time such as this, we should only stand behind those who do...right? Brown is against partial birth abortion - right on!! ...... but I would feel more comfortable if he at least stood for banning abortions after the first tri-mester...... something! i would like to know where tea party donations go and who determines where the funds are donated??? anyone?
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